With thanks to Larry Hurtado and the Ph D student who brought this to his attention, I have accessed a recently published article that, as Dr Hurtado himself says, “all concerned with the study of NT manuscripts should read”: Pasquale Orsini & Willy Clarysse, “Early New Testament Manuscripts and Their Dates: A Critique of Theological Palaeography,” 88 (2012): 443-74.
Yet both Archaeology using stratigraphy and pottery seriation and radiocarbon dating with Bayesian statistics give correct dates in other geographic areas and eras.
is a technique used by scientists to learn the ages of biological specimens – for example, wooden archaeological artifacts or ancient human remains – from the distant past.
It can be used on objects as old as about 62,000 years.
Marine Chemistry 126: 239-249Tipping E, Billett MF, Bryant CL, Buckingham S, Thacker SA (2010) Sources and ages of dissolved organic matter in peatland streams: evidence from chemistry mixture modelling and radiocarbon data.
Biogeochemistry 100: 121-137 P, Schnabel C, Scott EM, Summerfield MA, Xu S (2007) The SUERC AMS laboratory after 3 years.
NERC Radiocarbon Facility (East Kilbride), Scottish Enterprise Technology Park, Rankine Avenue, East Kilbride, Scotland, G75 OQF, UNITED KINGDOM Tel.
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Larry Hurtado does not appear to be particularly interested in P52 since he makes no mention of it in his post, though he does mention around 15 other manuscripts. Thiede has argued for a first century date for P52. P104 is very similar, from a graphic point of view, to P52: Comfort–Barrett and Jaroš instead proposed PSI XI 1213 (NORSA, 1929-1946, pl. The present article analyzes the date of the earliest New Testament papyri on the basis of comparative palaeography and a clear distinction between different types of literary scripts.
So for the benefit of those who are curious, here are the relevant points and conclusion of Pasquale Orsini & Willy Clarysse. (Papyrologists have generally reacted negatively to Thiede’s general arguments for earlier dating of manuscripts.) B. There are no first-century New Testament papyri and only very few papyri can be attributed to the (second half of the) second century.
They observed that every rock formation, no matter how ancient, appeared to be formed from still older rocks.
Comparing these rocks with the products of present erosion, sedimentation, and earth movements, these earliest geologists soon concluded that the time required to form and sculpt the present Earth was immeasurably longer than had previously been thought.